AS: I'd like to start
by asking what first drew you to apply to the residency at AirSpace
Gallery?
Tom:
Both AirSpace and Stoke-on-Trent were new to me when I applied to the
residency through Artquest. I was applying for lots of things after
graduation, saw this, and thought it would be a good opportunity.
It's ideal because it's specifically for graduates so you know that
you're not going to be competing against more established artists. I
thought I'd just go for it, so I sent off an application,
participated in the interview, and moved to
Stoke. Sometimes you've just got to take a chance. At the beginning,
I didn't know anyone in the city or how it would all work out.
AS:
How did you find adjusting to a new city, away from your home in
Bristol and university city, London? How did you find the process of
finding a place, and carrying on with your practice after art school
in a new environment?
Tom:
Moving to the city was pretty easy. It's quite hard to find a
furnished house here, but we (Tom and fellow resident Jack)
managed to find one near the university. After Camberwell, I had
a brief stopover in Bristol, so by the time I got here I was ready to
start making again. It's great to have a studio where I get to work,
and to also have the support of the AirSpace directors, who we meet with once a month. An elected mentor also comes in once every three months
and talks to you about your work. It's quite different to university:
when you're studying there are people around everyday and you have
frequent discussions about your practice. Here, it's much less, and you
end up following a set path in your own head rather than lots of
people offering you little bits of feedback – which can be both
good and bad.
AS:
Staying on the subject of having a studio space and supervisory
meetings, how did you find the level of support, for example, were
the meetings with your mentor Kevin Hunt useful?
Tom:
I had really great experience with Kevin, and it was a much better
relationship than I've had with any tutor. It felt as though he put
in a lot of effort to come to Stoke and to provide me with some
constructive feedback – this motivated me to take his suggestions
on board. The mentoring has definitely improved the work; each
session rebooting it in some way. I just had another meeting on
Sunday, and now I'm feeling more confident about the show. It would
have looked completely different, I think, if he hadn't helped me,
specifically with the curation. I've learnt a lot about creating
tension in the space and using it in a way that is beneficial to both
the space and the artwork. The gallery at AirSpace is a difficult
space to work with in some respects because it has a central pillar
as well as a few nooks and crannies. Kevin was good in saying that
you don't have to use these situational quirks in a really obvious
way. We've created, I think, a really contemporary looking show –
perhaps one that you don't see very often in Stoke.
AS:
Earlier
today, we were talking about
how filling
a whole space on your own can be a little bit daunting, and to have
pieces
in development that really use the gallery
can be challenging. What
was your approach to this?
Tom:
Yes,
Kevin was
really good in telling me to be more confident in the work, because
if you're not that confident with it, you can end
up filling
the space with all of your work. Kevin
and I talked about paring it
back and not
putting everything in. The
idea is to let the artwork have
space around it and to be
confident that it can
hold the wall. For example,
there's a really small 10cm
clay piece in the show that
is displayed on
about
eight metres
of wall. It's
about saying that this piece is good enough to warrant this wall.
AS:
It sounds as though this experience has given you the confidence to
curate things in new and
experimental ways. This
leads into my next question:
how has your practice
developed since graduating
from Camberwell, particularly
in these last six months?
Tom:
Important
changes have occurred
concerning my use of clay – it was a material that I wanted
to use but didn't know how to work with it.
Earlier, I was using clay
too much and now, I've learnt how
to use it sparingly so
that it has more of an
impact. Prior to
this I was
composing found objects
together, and so there was
no hand crafting involved like there is with clay.
A
block of clay can become anything and you have to form it – it has
infinite possibilities, whereas something
like rope goes from point A
to B, and you just decide what happens in the middle.
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The Weight of Things, 2017. |
AS:
Clay, like you say, is something very malleable and
you have the final say over
its shape
whereas, for example, a glass bottle is
already formed. A lot of
your work uses
readymade and found items to
address the value and
positioning of objects. I'm interested to hear how clay combined
with these readymade objects
continues
this thematic pursuit?
Tom:
This
theme is the core of the work, but
it's
not overly obvious in the show. In
earlier pieces, where I was
making clay plinths for items,
it was almost too
literal. The main idea behind this is that clay – a typically ornamental
thing – can been used as a structural item. By
placing clay beneath a manmade or machine-made object, I seek to play with the audience's expectation of seeing a handmade item at the top of a pile. It's also about touch: the clay is molded by hand and contains traces of my handprints (something that the machine-made object does not have). In later works, I've tried to experiment with these differences in more subtle ways.
AS: It's questioning
the value that people
place on ornamental objects, and
flipping the norm.
Tom:
Yes, for
example glass is a material
often used to display
something else (as
a glass vitrine or shelf).
In my work
it's
being displayed on something
like a handmade clay shelf. I'm
putting more artistic effort into
making the support material than the thing that is going to be on
display. It's meant to
confuse the viewer who
becomes
more interested in the support structure than the item
on show. Whilst
the show itself moves away from this, the
prominent
theme
of the
difference of touch between clay and the item
that the clay supports
remains.
AS:
Not to
stay on the subject of clay for too long, but I wanted to ask
about its connection
to Stoke-on-Trent's heritage. Was
the use of clay a conscious decision when you came to Stoke; did you
feel drawn to the city's
ceramic history, or was it something that you were interested in
before?
Tom: The
reason why I used, or continued
to use clay in Stoke was
because of its availability
in the city. There's
Potclays
down the road, where you can get hundreds of bits of clay, so
it's
an easy material to get, but I wasn't drawn to the history of it
really. I knew that it was a very conscious material of the city – it's
in everyone's minds – so I knew to be a little bit careful with it.
That's
why there are much fewer clay or ceramic pieces in the final
show.
AS:
It's
interesting how the work
is removed from the city's
heritage due to its usage,
but then again it's
always
going to have certain
connotations with it, perhaps.
Tom:
Yes it will, I think if it's
made in the city, it will do, but maybe it's
good that I can offer
an alternative use for the material. It
might get people to think
about it in a different way. The
majority of artists in the city are ceramic artists, and it might be
interesting to have a fine
artist
giving an opinion on how the material can be used, as a material,
away from more
traditional processes.
AS:
We've spoken about readymade and found objects. Is there anywhere
in particular that you look for these items? How do you select your
objects?
Tom:
A lot of it comes from our house – it's a furnished place filled
with things from past tenants – and more comes from the gallery and
it's garden, like the rocks. Generally, I try to combine an everyday
household object with the malleable clay and a raw material, like
stones or wood, so that you have a variety of different materials
that can be judged against each other. I select mundane materials
that everyone is aware of, but isn't scrutinised in day-to-day life;
cups, mugs and little glassware things that aren't highly valued.
AS:
In a way, you're elevating these objects.
Tom:
Yes, and using them in a secondary way that they're not meant to be
used in. So, this glass vase (points to work) has become a
structural element rather than an ornamental thing. And there's some
pickle jars in the show that I use in a supportive way too, to hold
it together – so again, they're being asked to do a different thing
to what they're intended to do, which forces you to look at them in
a different light.
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Pickle Juice, 2017. Trestle Tables, Pickle Jars and Raw Clay. |
AS: You've
mentioned some of your work in development, but what do you anticipate
for your upcoming
show? What can audiences
expect to see or experience in The Weight of Things?
Tom: I think people should come with an open mind. They're going to see
what I've made in the last six months in Stoke-on-Trent, and whilst
it may not be directly
connected to the city,
there are things that have been made during
my time here.
I've not even been thinking
about the end product really.
AS:
Well, there isn't always an end product, the work is often in
development. Can
you describe some of the pieces
that are going to be in the show?
Tom:
There's
a really small piece made out of clay. It's
intended to be a specific
display holder for disposable
cutlery: a
knife, fork and spoon. The
piece is about spending time
doing something for objects that aren't normally held in a high
regard; creating a structure for them
to be displayed and observed
in a new
way. It's also humorous as the audience is spending
time with objects that don't normally have time spent on them.
Another piece in the show
features a little clay
box filled with stones. The
work was experimental when I made it, but on reflection it highlights
the touch of both materials:
the stone has been worn away over thousands of years to become
a pebble, and
it's being held inside a box
that I've made in half an hour from
loosely
molded clay. The interplay
between a slowly formed object and a very fast, quickly formed object
is something that I've found quite interesting.
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Packed House, 2017. Painted Clay, Stones. |
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Souvenir From A Picnic, 2017. Painted Clay, Plastic Cutlery. |
AS:
Prior to this exhibition, you
had an interim show in
December. Was
the interim helpful and how did you develop the transition from one
show to the other?
Tom:
It
was helpful to hang the work and see what it looks like. From
the interim show there are two slightly
altered pieces that are going
to move into the new show. The
interim helped me
to see
what the
work looked like in
an exhibition context, and to
figure out the
parts
that I was
most interested in.
It helped to have a test show, which
included making a poster and
writing an exhibition text.
The
mid-term deadline was useful
as I had to have pieces
finished rather than have them
floating about
the studio. It's
also an opportunity for people to see what you're doing during the
residency and open some communication between the public and you. It
keeps everyone up to date, including
yourself.
AS:
Can
you describe some of the challenges that you've encountered during
the residency, and how you've
overcome these?
Tom:
I think a lot of the challenges are just general ones,
like moving to a new city, not really knowing anybody and meeting
new people. The
good thing about the
residency is that you have
the studio, so whatever happens, you've got a
place where you can work.
Other challenges.. in London, there are thousands of shows that you
can
go to every weekend, but here, you're a
little bit on your own in
terms of context. On the
other hand, its good that
Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester are so close, and
you can take
day trips to neighboring
cities. But there are a lot
of people here, and they're all really welcoming.
AS:
Having
lived in the city for the last six months, what will you take away
with you?
Do
you think you'll stay in Stoke, and what will you take away
with you from the
residency?
Tom:
A lot of it will come from
the mentoring that I
received from Kevin, that's
where I've gained
the most during the residency, but I know that
I've learnt lots
more from just being able to
make work. I've definitely developed a lot more as an artist, which
is really great to have the opportunity to get the ground running and
to stabilise my practice into something that I can be confident in.
I've made a few friends, and
I'll be staying until March.
Then, in June, I'm going to
Iceland.
AS:
That leads me onto my next question: how do see your work progressing
and what do have planned on the horizon next, Iceland sounds
exciting?
Tom: In terms of progressing with the work, I'm
looking forward to some decompression time, because on the residency
I've just been producing as much as I can. I'm looking forward to not
having a deadline and to have time to think about the work at a
slower pace. I'll take a little break, but not for too long. I'm
happy with the work and I've just got to figure out what aspects of
it I'm most interested in and how to keep doing it. In June, I'm
going to Iceland on a one month residency, something that I've had
planned since last summer. From my time at AirSpace, I've definitely
learnt about being on a residency and how to be natural with it.
You've got to just take it as it comes and try not to overthink the
work. Then after that, I don't know what's going to happen, back to
England and then, I could live in Bristol or I could move to
Liverpool. It feels a little as though I've moved the scary part of
graduation to now.
AS:
Perhaps, but it has given you the time to continue with your practice
and to build a certain confidence that now you feel more prepared to
pursue it. What advice can you offer to future graduate
residents?
Tom: Similar to what I was saying, don't think
too much about it, just come in and let the work happen naturally,
don't try to make work that's specifically for the city just because
you're here. It's good to live with the other resident, because then
you've got one person that you know, and you can move outwards from
there. It's great that everyone is interested to meet the annual
residents – they know the situation you're in and they're happy to
hang out. Hopefully I can come back and talk to the residents to give
them advice in person.
AS:
Any last words, where does your work go from here, do you think
you''ll carry on using clay?
Tom:
I will, because I've found a way of using the dry clay with enamel
paint that has a nice finish, and I've found the level at which it
should be in my work. My practice before the residency was a little bit
colder: I was into minimalism, constructivism and strong forms. This
is why I brought clay into my work – it acts as a handmade
counter element to that harsh minimalist language. It's good to have
an element of something that creates a more tension, so that it's not just all strong form, and there is something a
little more interesting there.
Tom Verity, The Weight of Things, February 3rd to 11th, AirSpace Gallery.
Tom Verity was born in Bristol and graduated from Camberwell College of Art in 2016. His works have been shortlisted for three major awards (Bloomberg New Contemporaries, Woon Art Prize and the SOLO award) and this, his first solo exhibition, has been supported by a successful GFA Arts Council Application.
The AirSpace Gallery Graduate Residency Scheme, running since 2012, seeks to tackle graduate retention in Stoke-on-Trent and offers new arts graduates an opportunity to bridge the gap between education and a professional arts career. Residents receive a studio space for 6 months, monthly mentoring meetings and full access to the Gallery's facilities.
Interview conducted by Selina Oakes.